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The Optimistic Curmudgeon is an interview podcast where Josh Herring interviews expert guests whose credentials and experience help listeners understand truth in a confusing world. We discuss issues under seven areas: economics, politics, education, philosophy, business, virtue, and leadership! May the best ideas win.
The Optimistic Curmudgeon is an interview podcast where Josh Herring interviews expert guests whose credentials and experience help listeners understand truth in a confusing world. We discuss issues under seven areas: economics, politics, education, philosophy, business, virtue, and leadership! May the best ideas win.
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Monday Apr 27, 2026
Creating Classroom Culture with Mandi Gerth (10x8)
Monday Apr 27, 2026
Monday Apr 27, 2026
Mandi Gerth draws from her book Thoroughness and Charm: Cultivating the Habits of the Classical Classroom to explain what teaching is, how teachers can draw on the wisdom of Machiavelli to understand their authority and wield it for the good of their students, and what it means to put on the Western tradition as both a mantle and a crown.
Along the way, Mandi shares wisdom from Donald and Louise Cowan, highlights the difficulty of the teaching task, and inspires teachers with a lofty vision of shaping the students' souls to perceive truth, beauty, and goodness.
Mandi is the Administrative Director of Cowan Center at the @universityofdallas , an instructor in @thalescollege 's Certificate in Classical Education Philosophy, and a prolific writer on @substackinc .
You can find her at https://mrsgerthteaches.substack.com/
You can also order Thoroughness and Charm: Cultivating the Habits of the Classical Classroom here: https://circeinstitute.org/product/thoroughness-and-charm/

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